When I get tired of appeasing the pope, since I want to expand more ruthlessly, I simply take Rome or assassinate the pope (this is very hard, since you need a bunch of well trained assassins, most of them will still die trying), while I make sure that the next Pope is one of my own cardinals (bribe neutral and friendly factions). Some monetary presents to or even an alliance with the pope also increases the chances to be pope's favorite, not to forget about a crusade into the holy land and building up churches. (It simply wouldn't feel right to lead a crusade against the Danes or French, my regular armies can take care of them, too).
I usually take this opportunity and invade the Baltics & cripple the always annoying Poland by taking as much lands from them as possible, when passing by. If there was no crusade recently, you can exploit the misery of the excomunicated hostile factions and have a devastating crusade into their lands. When the Pope gets mad at you, all you need to do is solely defending for a few turns, so that the other nations are the aggressor in the eyes of the pope and get excommunicated. TOTAL WAR, yeah! I love challenging campaigns. Indeed I also don't understand why so many people in here care for pope relations or attacking fellow catholic nations? In my games playing the HRE I always took the German rebel provinces in the first turns, which lead me to war early on with f.e. In the game the HRE isn't such a active trouble maker, they love building up their economy, maybe because later on in the game the Black Death will strike, i don't know, but in my game they're the inactivest faction besides of Russia. I can see that France is compared with the HRE as almost exactly the same, but don't forget that France and England are 2 rivals so war between those 2 is inevitably, and so France gets in a war zone and the HRE? Doesn't join the wars, only crusades.
However i've checked the relationships in the descr_strat file (too bad i cannot forget what i've seen) and the relationships between the HRE and the Papal States are from the beginning on bad, and hardly to increase.Īs Crusader Invasion said, they're the Seleucids of Medieval II, only the difference is that the HRE doesn't get all factions against them. Their troops are quite good indeed, and they can build up an economy without problems from the east, north, west and south because they're all catholic. In the lands of the HRE it's dense forested and i never let my troops or merchants walk there, it's like the landscape protects them. The place where the HRE begins is also crucial.
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